Supreme Court Protest

Tolerance

LA MESA -- A couple of weeks ago La Mesa Today carried an article about a new business in La Mesa - Hobby Lobby. The first comment about the article called Hobby Lobby "woman hating bigots" and advocated boycotting the store.

         I presume this comment was made because Hobby Lobby claims their religious beliefs argue against four of the 20 types of birth control proscribed by Obamacare - and thus the company "only" includes 16 types in the company health plan. I also oppose making it mandatory that birth control be included in all medical plans. My opposition is not religious. I simply object to requiring taxpayers to pay for someone else's birth control.

         I suppose that makes me a "woman hating bigot" too  - maybe worse since I oppose making any of the 20 forms of birth control a mandatory part of all health plans. I wonder what words the person who called Hobby Lobby (and me) "woman hating bigots", over this relatively minor difference of opinion, would use to describe someone who believes in female genital mutilation, or arranged marriages or that women should not be educated, or that they should be stoned to death for adultery.

         I wonder why the blogger needed to use such angry, over the top, hateful rhetoric to challenge someone who disagrees with them about a relatively minor issue. What happened to tolerance and thoughtful discussion? I had a Mother, and still have a wife, two sisters, two daughters, three daughters-in-law and five granddaughters. I love them all and they love me. I don't know how each of them feels about this issue, but I guarantee you that even if we are of differing opinions, none would consider me a woman hating bigot. I don't know anyone who owns or works for Hobby Lobby, but I'll bet they love their families - men and women - as much as I love mine.

         I want to leave a better country to the women I mentioned above (and to the men in my family as well). Knee jerk, over-the-top, hateful name calling won't get us there. Tolerance of differing opinions and civilized dialogue about those differences might. 

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Comment by David Stanley on April 2, 2015 at 1:07pm

Whenever events or occasions like this arise one can ALWAYS expect the predictable and one is never disappointed. The "Progressive Liberal" mob are always the same with the exact same responses, rhetoric, placquards. picketing and screaming hate to the slavering television cameras/ And in recent years almost all of this hate has been and is being generated by unions, homosexuals, white haters and single digit iq morons who themselves have no knowledge of the subjects but are either paid by the unions, black racist bigots and homosexuals or hear screaming and cant stop themselves from joining in. The most recent "cause" is the protection of religious rights. Of course this "protection" was tossed in the dust bin years ago by homosexuals bent upon legal assault and furthering their questionable agenda. Today, here in La Mesa, we learn that Hobby Lobby is about to open a store inthe Grossmont area and what are we faced with? The same screaming, hate white, hate America, hate Christians, hate heterosexuals, pro-abortion, feminazi loud mouths foaming and screaming the same pap heard day after day every where in America. And who is there with them? Why the cameras or course. Notice that seemingly few of these know nothings, do nothings, scoff laws must bother with work absenteeism because I would opine that few of them do work but many of them collect their "pay" from the unions and homosexual leaders after creating yet another kindergarten mob scene for the drooling cameras. 

Say, just when, do you suppose we, as a community, we as a nation, will be able to return to the Constitution where religious rights are once again guaranteed and the religious must not be forced by their Socialist courts and government to kowtow to the absolute minority of ou population? I would venture NEVER owing to the continued gathering strength of those who feel they must leap about and scream to the world how much they love their boy and girl friends and what they love to do to them, now even in the public eye. "Gay Pride" is rather like the oximoron "Military Intelligence" and we are witnessing that RIGHT HERE IN LA MESA. Why, Hobbyi Lobby has NO RIGHT to Not want to be FORCED to do things against their religious beliefs. Do YOU think homosexuals, blacks and unions would stand still for the opposite actions forced upon them? Are YOU INSANE? But you sure wont find Christians and those who love America waiving placquards, screaming pro-Christina slogans, wearing pro-Christian t shirts, and acting like total asses whilst being paid by unions, homosexual activists and black radicals, WOULD YOU?

Comment by Batman on April 2, 2015 at 12:40am

The subject matter here is not drivel by any means, it's serious business. And it has nothing to do with Hobby Lobby per se, or condoms or gay wedding cakes. What we're dealing with here is freedom of speech, private property rights, religious freedom and freedom of commerce. What do the sweet sounding terms "equality" and "tolerance" really mean in practice? Could they actually mean "conformity" and "cowardice"?

If a business doesn't want to make gay wedding cakes they don't have to. If they don't want to allow guns on their premises they don't have to. If they don't want to provide condoms as part of their employee health care plan they don't have to. America is the land of opportunity. If one business won't provide what you want another one will, and they will be happy to accept your money.

The free condoms and gay wedding cake issues are simply being used as a wedge to separate us from our unalienable rights. If we are going to survive as a free nation we must stand up for what is right, no matter how we may be criticized and condemned.

Back to the young lady in the purple tee shirt. I find it eerie that the pro-abortion organization she's promoting is so similar in name to a popular pesticide marketed from the 1920s through the 1970s. You old timers know which one I'm talking about.

Comment by Kevin G George on April 1, 2015 at 12:06pm

Exactly Amy, maybe you should have considered that before typing your original post.

Russell Buckley is a member of the community also.

Comment by chris shea on April 1, 2015 at 12:02pm

I have to say I always enjoy the back and forth on this website, and it has been so quiet following the election in November.  When I saw that Batman and Kevin George and Gene Carpenter and Jimmy Sanders all wrote, I said hooray.  Life in the crazy street scape village is alive and well.

I appreciate, by the way, getting a head's up from LMT when there is something new to read.  I don't always have time to do so, but I never really think of it as an intrusion.  After all we all want the same things essentially.  Perhaps our individual approaches are as different as night and day, but we all love our precious La Mesa.

I'm going to try and get out one more piece on the Street Scape.  My toy truck in the window is begging to be out there in the trenches!

Cheers everyone!  Stay cool, kind and engaged.

Comment by Aimee on April 1, 2015 at 11:44am
Got it. I will leave this site but remember I am your neighbor as are others I assume who go to this site. I don't know you but am also part of this community. Our kids could go to the same school. While interacting on the internet can be frustrating and nuance lost in translation, remember be kind. We are all neighbors.
Comment by Kevin G George on April 1, 2015 at 11:34am

Good idea. Your valuable time is being wasted here.

Comment by Aimee on April 1, 2015 at 11:24am
Kevin, I dislike those being directed as news as well. I posted on this issue because it isn't just opinion but a direct response to a comment in a post (not agreeing with that comment, it was over the top and malicious). I have a lot going on and this website is a cursory thought. I probably should direct it to a contact is page. I thought that the site might be interested in what a subscriber does and does not with the receive. I am tired of this thread and resp
Comment by Kevin G George on April 1, 2015 at 9:51am

News? 

Amy we get notifications for in our email boxes for articles like this http://www.lamesatoday.com/profiles/blogs/stay

from Chris Shea on a regular basis. David Stanley and others also contribute with their posts about many things besides the news.

Why no complaint about those articles " cluttering" your mail box?

If you want to oppose an opinion do so, but don't blame it on the fact that it was automatically sent to you or it does not fulfill your requirements as news.

Your complaint of a cluttered mail box is a thinly veiled attack that fools no one.

Please comment on the content Mr. Buckleys article if want to challenge his view, not the means by which you received it.

Comment by Jimmy Sanders on April 1, 2015 at 9:48am

Thanks to Gino for posting pictures of the good guys in the decision! And for the NARAL chic in the purple shirt!!!

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Comment by Aimee on April 1, 2015 at 9:28am

Kevin, I don't mind hearing a range of views, but I guess my point is this is an editorial and not news. I have found this site valuable in many ways to learn what is going on in my community. I think an op ed section and open dialog about community issues, if I agree or not, is fine, but It is not news and I don't need to be alerted in my inbox to the story. I hate to unsubscribe to it all, but if there is no distinction maybe it is best to do so. 

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