LA MESA -- It was the best of times and the worst of times for the Property Based Improvement District committee Wednesday night.

There were moments of great democratic wrangling and priority setting and low moments of on-going personal infighting between committee members and critics in the audience.

On the best side, after weeks of slow wrangling about little details, the group shared food and moved ahead quickly setting general parameters for spending that would be done on behalf of the downtown property owners if a PBID gets property owner approval.

The group also voted to establish marketing as a main purpose of the organization by establishing a budget goal of $100,000 per year -- two times higher than originally proposed -- to spend promoting the downtown Village area.

The group also voted to put aside at least $50,000 in its budget for permanent downtown lights, an attempt to extend the holiday festive look all year round.

Still the meeting was punctuated with occasional sideshows in which a critic in the audience traded barbs with the PBID committee members.

Bill Jaynes, owner of All Things Bright and British, has been a constant thorn in the side of the committee, often accusing it of illegal and unethical actions, though not filing any formal complaints with authorities.

On Wednesday night, Jaynes, as is his routine, used his three minutes to raise concerns about the committee's process and actions, ending with a request that the committee apologize for members who had accused the PBID critics of spreading misinformation.

As Jaynes' performances go, it was relatively mild, but it raised the ire of committee members who took their comment time to criticize Jaynes.

Still, sideshows aside, the PBID committee is clearly moving quickly to a point where it will be able to determine the assessments that would be made against downtown properties to fund maintenance of the city's planned $5-million redevelopment effort.

If property owners agree to the assessments, the PBID committee would form a board, hire an administrator and begin investing in maintenance, marketing and security for the downtown commercial district.

However, if the PBID is not approved, city officials have said they would scale back its investment in the area, saying they don't want to build facilities without a funding mechanism in place to maintain them.   

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Tags: All Things Bright and British, Bill Jaynes, PBID, Property Based Improvement District


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Comment by La Mesa Today on June 25, 2011 at 12:14pm


The PBID committee has been meeting every other Wednesday, usually at at meeting room just left to the entrance on the new police station. At six o'clock. I will make sure upcoming meetings are added to our calendar on the home page in the future.

Chris Lavin, Editor

Comment by Phil Sluder on June 25, 2011 at 10:22am
Where can I get information about the next meeting?? Thanks in advance.
Comment by Heather on June 24, 2011 at 1:25pm

I have attended a couple meeting but normally have my young 2 year old daughter at that time and did not want to distract the audience or the members with her 2 year old energy.  I will start attending the meetings even though I have her with me.


Thank you.

Comment by Laurie MacDonald on June 23, 2011 at 1:46pm

I am on the PBID committee, and I was the committee member who commented about respect and the right to question the process.  I question this process, this has great potential but I am not a yes man. This is a assessment that should be looked at in great detail.  I can see the good that the PBID can provide for the village, however this is becoming a larger and larger assessment for the property owners/businesses to swallow.  We all have a long wish list of what we want but we really should live within our means.  It's just so easy to spend. 

Heather we would love to have you attend the meetings.  They are open.

Comment by Heather on June 23, 2011 at 11:53am

I agree, Everyone should be able to ask questions and be treated with respect.

I was told young you have to give respect to receive it! When someone makes false accusations of illegal and unethical actions you are not giving respect, your stirring the pot.

Comment by Deena on June 23, 2011 at 10:53am

You mentioned the Committee Comment time of the agenda and that was as I stated. 


After the meeting, well, I don't know what was going on -- maybe having extended these PBID meetings from 90 minutes to 150 minutes makes people behave differently.


A couple things that happened last night that I thought were noteworthy were:


"Friendly Amendments" to a motion -- I'll have to look it up of course, but we were instructed that after a person makes a motion, someone else can amend that motion without the maker's approval.  So we ended up having two or three of those through the night.


Secondly, at the very end of the meeting someone made a motion, and a quick second was made.  We argued whether there was time left to continue.  Once it was decided that we had only one minute remaining someone loudly called for the question.  We all wanted to discuss and an audience member got vocal that the question had been called and the vote needed to occur. 


I was surprised that someone in the audience was so vocal over this, and why were they eager for us to vote before discussion had occured.  I hope "Harry"  or "Zack" or any of the PBID people who blog with fake names can answer my question.

Comment by La Mesa Today on June 23, 2011 at 8:54am

Good catch Deena. I've corrected the text to reflect your first point. I will leave the second one to the readers to weigh. The interactions between committee members and Bill Jaynes during and after the meeting extended beyond one member, but my intention was to note it, not dwell on it.


Chris Lavin, Editor,

Comment by Deena on June 23, 2011 at 6:45am

Two quick points:


1) The marketing proposal was $51,000  and it was raised to $100,000 -- not four times it's original figure.


2) It wasn't committee member(S), only one committee member who took their comment time to criticize Jaynes.  I believe a second person actually said people (committee and public) should be allowed to ask questions and be treated with respect. 

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