Council May Mull Driveway Flyer Limits

LA MESA -- The City Council meets Tuesday afternoon, but the agenda suggests this could be a relatively short meeting.

Councilwoman Ruth Sterling has brought up a subject that should warm the hearts of many homeowners. She is asking that the city attorney investigate the city's authority to regulate the distribution of free and unsolicited flyers on the lawns and porches of private residences.

Sterling points out that such flyers can help burglars identify unattended homes and lead to litter in the neighborhoods. However, this issue has traditionally run up against First Amendment concerns as political and newspaper messaging occurs this way.

The council will also review a large list of applicants to fill a vacancy on the Planning Commission.

Also both Mayor Art Madrid and Councilman Ernie Ewin are asking council approval for their desired attendance at the League of California Cities Convention upcoming in Los Angeles. Nothing really special about that but all recent travel requests have been adventures as the council majority has regularly voted against Madrid's requests and with Ewin in limiting the mayor's travels. However, Madrid has often personally funded some of the trips the council has refused to pay for.

Ewin has announced he will be leaving the council at year's end.

The council will also hear a number of requests from City Manager Dave Witt for mid-budget adjustments, including establishing a $50,000 fund for future public relations efforts.

Council meets Tuesday at 4 p.m. in the City Hall Chambers on Allison Avenue.

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Comment by Barbara Stevens on August 27, 2014 at 8:04am

I think the real solution would be to make it a crime to leave flyers on your own driveway.


Seriously, what is the big deal? You have these mailers, and someone had to deliver them, There's at least one job. Someone had to sell the ad space. Someone had to print the doggone things.


So, because SOME people cannot, for various reasons, get up to the top of their driveway to pick it up and put it in the recycle bin unopened, we need a LAW that will end several jobs that someone is depending on?


Ms. Sterling worries about them building up while people are on vacation. OK, neighbors. This is where you come in. You notice this and the person hasn't notified you that they are going on vacation? We used to have neighbors who did that kind of thing for us.  If you are going on vacation and have someone taking care of your pets, why not ask them to keep an eye out for it along with your daily mail?


Why does Government have to step in for every single issue? Why can't we proactively take care of these things ourselves?


Now if you want to pass a meaningful law, pass one that prohibits my next door neighbor from putting HIS trash in my bins (and usually the incorrect one) because he hasn't paid his EDCO bill or he is just too lazy to roll his own bin up to the curb. THAT is a serious problem that we need laws to address, if you ask me!!!

Comment by MG Raftery on August 13, 2014 at 9:11pm

Free speech would probably apply to political mailers, as it does to phone soliciting. You can't block calls from politicians or from nonprofit charities.

Comment by Batman on August 12, 2014 at 3:41pm

I would much rather the advertisers just leave a flyer on my front porch than ring my telephone or doorbell.

Comment by Don Allen on August 12, 2014 at 9:36am

I fail to see this as a First Amendment issue. Since when does the First Amendment give someone the right to express their views on my private property? Public property so be it but i have the right to decide who can enter my property.

Comment by Scott H. Kidwell on August 11, 2014 at 10:06pm

Going with Barry on this one!

Comment by Ernest Ewin on August 11, 2014 at 9:24pm

The La Mesa City council will support travel -if funds available - for organizations it publicly supports membership in on behalf of the citizens of this City...and at least 3 votes are secured.

Mr. Editor, you state that " However,Madrid often personally funded some of the trips the council has refused to pay for." Please name the trips he personally "often personally..." paid for.

I will then post a trip he did not pay for but took without the Council requiring support or his own specific funds.


Ernie Ewin

Comment by David Stanley on August 11, 2014 at 3:52pm

I have reviewed my desk copy of the Constitution and more particularly, the First Amendment as it applies to "free speech". Darned if I have been able to locate any reference to The Californian "newspaper" and any other of the trash flyers so freely thrown about by minimum wage distributors. Can anyone out there post the specific section of the Constitution that says I must be subjected to this constant litter. oh and please do not contact one of the nation's greatest disappointments, the ACLU, for me. I would rather gather the trash daily than tolerate ANY contact with that subversive organization. Thank you.

Comment by Barry Jantz on August 11, 2014 at 2:37pm

The First Amendment can at times lead to a few annoyances. But, it is SOOOO worth having it, as well as leaving it in intact.

Comment by Susan Brinchman on August 11, 2014 at 2:18pm

What irritates me more is the loss of freedom that can occur. Let La Mesa's City Council and Mayor take away our freedom of speech? Heck, no. I would contact the ACLU if they try that...


Comment by La Mesa Today on August 11, 2014 at 12:53pm

Comment Posted by member Mayan Avitable: I really agree that the flyers need to be stopped. There may be several days in a row that I do not go out to my driveway. The advertising thrown out there looks like I'm not home. I think it's dangerous. Free speech -- does it apply to advertising? The worst offender is a newspaper-like looking folded over series of ads. I think it comes from the UT. 

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